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		<title>Doctor Who and the Problem of Pain</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;‘If God were good, He would wish to make His creatures perfectly happy, and if God were almighty He would be able to do what He wished. But the creatures are not happy. Therefore God lacks either goodness, or power, or both.’ This is the problem of pain, in it’s simplest form.&#8221; C.S. Lewis, <em>The Problem of Pain</em>.</p>
<p><img alt="" src="http://freetiviline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/doctor-who.jpg.jpg" class="alignright" width="150" height="123" />Yesterday, I watched a couple episodes of Doctor Who with my daughter. That&#8217;s a good moment! While looking for the preaching moment, I was struck by a theme that both had in common. </p>
<p><strong>The Problem of Pain. </strong></p>
<p>Many philosophies today attempt to answer C.S. Lewis with a process approach to God: God isn&#8217;t actually powerful and omniscient and he doesn&#8217;t stop pain because he can&#8217;t&#8230;etc. I find this anemic and utterly devoid of the need for the Trinitarian God, the incarnation, the cross, the resurrection, the life in the spirit and the revelation of God through Scripture. But I digress&#8230;</p>
<p>Like Jesus toward the cross, I was amazed by the way the writers approached pain and suffering: Head On. In the first one I watched, <em>Age of Steel</em> (S2E7), catch this dialogue (you can play it below the blockquote).</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Lumic</strong>: Doctors need not exist. Cybermen never sick.</p>
<p><strong>Doctor</strong>: Yeah but that’s it. That’s exactly the point. Oh, Lumic, you’re a clever man. I’d call you a genius, except I’m in the room. But everything you’ve invented you did to fight your sickness, and that’s brilliant, that’s so human. But once you get rid of sickness and mortality, what’s there to strive for, eh? The Cybermen won’t advance, you’ll just stop. You’ll stay like this forever a metal earth with metal men and metal thoughts. Lacking the one thing that makes this planet so alive: people. Ordinary, stupid, brilliant people.</p>
<p><strong>Lumic</strong>: You are proud of your emotions?</p>
<p><strong>Doctor</strong>: Oh, yes.</p>
<p><strong>Lumic</strong>: Then tell me Doctor, have you known grief and rage and pain? </p>
<p><strong>Doctor</strong>: Yes, yes i have. </p>
<p><strong>Lumic</strong>: And they hurt</p>
<p><strong>Doctor</strong>: Oh yes</p>
<p><strong>Lumic</strong>: I can set you free would. You not want that? A life without pain?</p>
<p><strong>Doctor</strong>: You might as well kill me</p>
<p><strong>Lumic</strong>: Then i will take that option. </p></blockquote>
<p> </p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Carrying his cross by himself, he went out to a place called Skull Place (in Aramaic, Golgotha).  That’s where they crucified him—and two others with him, one on each side and Jesus in the middle</em> [John 19:17-18; CEB]. &#8221;</p>
<p>Do you hear, &#8220;You might as well kill me&#8221; reverberate? <strong>Pain and suffering are not only a part of life, but evidence of it. </strong> That&#8217;s certainly not to say that I prefer pain to joy, but we have to deal with it like the rest. That is the problem of pain in its simplest form, too.</p>
<p>In Episode 10, <em>Love and Monsters</em> (Season 2), Elton, played by <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL2VuLndpa2lwZWRpYS5vcmcvd2lraS9NYXJjX1dhcnJlbg==" target=\"_blank\">Marc Warren</a>, ends the episode like this (watch the first 30 seconds):</p>
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<p>Makes it better? Are you kidding? </p>
<blockquote><p>There is a story in the Buddhist literature about a lady who comes to the Buddha to ask that her suffering be taken away, for her child has just died. Buddha says to her, “I will take your suffering away; but first I want you to go through the village and ask until you find someone who has never lost a loved one.”</p>
<p>She goes through the village asking, “Anyone not have someone die?” She comes back to the Buddha and says, “Thank you.” <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy56ZW5mb3J0aGVyZXN0b2Z1cy5jb20vcGFpbi5odG1s" target=\"_blank\">via</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Pain connects us to one another and God to us. </p>
<p>&#8220;<em>My brothers and sisters, think of the various tests you encounter as occasions for joy. After all, you know that the testing of your faith produces endurance. Let this endurance complete its work so that you may be fully mature, complete, and lacking in nothing</em> [James 1:2-4;CEB].&#8221;</p>
<p>Would it be better if there were no pain? The Doctor doesn&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>&#8220;Try to exclude the possibility of suffering which the order of nature and the existence of free wills involve, and you find that you have excluded life itself.&#8221; C.S. Lewis, <em>The Problem of Pain</em>.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>&#8220;‘If God were good, He would wish to make His creatures perfectly happy, and if God were almighty He would be able to do what He wished. But the creatures are not happy. Therefore God lacks either goodness, or power, or both.’ This is the prob[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>&#8220;‘If God were good, He would wish to make His creatures perfectly happy, and if God were almighty He would be able to do what He wished. But the creatures are not happy. Therefore God lacks either goodness, or power, or both.’ This is the problem of pain, in it’s simplest form.&#8221; C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain.
Yesterday, I watched a couple episodes of Doctor Who with my daughter. That&#8217;s a good moment! While looking for the preaching moment, I was struck by a theme that both had in common. 
The Problem of Pain. 
Many philosophies today attempt to answer C.S. Lewis with a process approach to God: God isn&#8217;t actually powerful and omniscient and he doesn&#8217;t stop pain because he can&#8217;t&#8230;etc. I find this anemic and utterly devoid of the need for the Trinitarian God, the incarnation, the cross, the resurrection, the life in the spirit and the revelation of God through Scripture. But I digress&#8230;
Like Jesus toward the cross, I was amazed by the way the writers approached pain and suffering: Head On. In the first one I watched, Age of Steel (S2E7), catch this dialogue (you can play it below the blockquote).
Lumic: Doctors need not exist. Cybermen never sick.
Doctor: Yeah but that’s it. That’s exactly the point. Oh, Lumic, you’re a clever man. I’d call you a genius, except I’m in the room. But everything you’ve invented you did to fight your sickness, and that’s brilliant, that’s so human. But once you get rid of sickness and mortality, what’s there to strive for, eh? The Cybermen won’t advance, you’ll just stop. You’ll stay like this forever a metal earth with metal men and metal thoughts. Lacking the one thing that makes this planet so alive: people. Ordinary, stupid, brilliant people.
Lumic: You are proud of your emotions?
Doctor: Oh, yes.
Lumic: Then tell me Doctor, have you known grief and rage and pain? 
Doctor: Yes, yes i have. 
Lumic: And they hurt
Doctor: Oh yes
Lumic: I can set you free would. You not want that? A life without pain?
Doctor: You might as well kill me
Lumic: Then i will take that option. 
 
&#8220;Carrying his cross by himself, he went out to a place called Skull Place (in Aramaic, Golgotha).  That’s where they crucified him—and two others with him, one on each side and Jesus in the middle [John 19:17-18; CEB]. &#8221;
Do you hear, &#8220;You might as well kill me&#8221; reverberate? Pain and suffering are not only a part of life, but evidence of it.  That&#8217;s certainly not to say that I prefer pain to joy, but we have to deal with it like the rest. That is the problem of pain in its simplest form, too.
In Episode 10, Love and Monsters (Season 2), Elton, played by Marc Warren, ends the episode like this (watch the first 30 seconds):

Makes it better? Are you kidding? 
There is a story in the Buddhist literature about a lady who comes to the Buddha to ask that her suffering be taken away, for her child has just died. Buddha says to her, “I will take your suffering away; but first I want you to go through the village and ask until you find someone who has never lost a loved one.”
She goes through the village asking, “Anyone not have someone die?” She comes back to the Buddha and says, “Thank you.” via
Pain connects us to one another and God to us. 
&#8220;My brothers and sisters, think of the various tests you encounter as occasions for joy. After all, you know that the testing of your faith produces endurance. Let this endurance complete its work so that you may be fully mature, complete, and lacking in nothing [James 1:2-4;CEB].&#8221;
Would it be better if there were no pain? The Doctor doesn&#8217;t think so. 
&#8220;Try to exclude the possibility of suffering which the order of nature and the existence of free wills involve, and you find that you have excluded life itself.&#8221; C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain.
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		<title>Game Of Thrones: How We Became Joneses</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s President&#8217;s Day today. When we look at a Game of Thrones, our country is not exempt. Politics and religion prismatically extent into the far reaches of culture. And of course, not all of the games are bad. Some are valiant. Abraham Lincoln (Vampire Hunter &#8212; sorry, couldn&#8217;t help myself), continues to exemplify courageous and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3Byb3BoZXRzYW5kcG9wc3RhcnMuY29tL2NhdGVnb3J5L2dhbWUtb2YtdGhyb25lcy0yLw=="><img src="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/gameofthronesbar.png" alt="" title="gameofthronesbar" width="650" height="50" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1995" /></a></p>
<p><img alt="" src="http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/02/Abraham-Lincoln-Vampire-Hunter.jpg" title="abe lincoln vampire hunter" class="alignleft" width="170" height="119" />It&#8217;s President&#8217;s Day today. When we look at a Game of Thrones, our country is not exempt. Politics and religion prismatically extent into the far reaches of culture. And of course, not all of the games are bad. Some are valiant. Abraham Lincoln (<a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLmNvbS93YXRjaD92PTM0eDZtLWFoR0lv" target=\"_blank\">Vampire Hunter</a> &#8212; sorry, couldn&#8217;t help myself), continues to exemplify courageous and sacrificial leadership to the world. The world that produced Lincoln and his values? That was a Game of Thrones if ever there was one. While the throne is now an oak desk in the Oval Office, the game remains. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to realize how close Israel of the Old Testament is to our nation, or any nation, today. The scriptures become anemic when we think, &#8220;that was them,&#8221; or &#8220;Oh, isn&#8217;t that pathetic how they did that back then?&#8221;</p>
<p>When the Hebrews arrived at Mt. Sinai, The Lord spoke, saying, &#8220;<em>I am the Lord your God who brought you out of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You must have no other gods before me. Do not make an idol for yourself &#8212; <strong>no form whatsoever</strong></em> [Ex 20:1-3; CEB].&#8221; </p>
<p>The options were limited: <strong>God, the Lord, or no god at all.</strong> </p>
<p>What this meant was that God was Lord, Savior, Protector and Commander in Chief. It was The Lord who led the people into battle and gave them victory. It was the Lord who defined national boundaries. It was the Lord who gave land to his people. It was the Lord who legislated. The chain of command reached beyond the mountain into the heavens. This made Israel stand out among nations. <strong>They were different</strong>. Their sovereignty was of divine origin. Their political system was unicameral, with no other candidates. </p>
<p>But&#8230;the people didn&#8217;t want to be different. They wanted a king, like other nations. First, with their adolescent demands negotiated, Israel entered into the period of the Judges. The judges were mediaries between God as King and Israel, his people.  This had it&#8217;s ups and downs, but Israel still felt too close to God&#8217;s reign. So, the time of the Judges came to an end. </p>
<p>The people did not want to be different. They wanted a king, like other nations. They wanted to be defined by the culture that surrounded them. They wanted options. <strong>They wanted freedom</strong>. </p>
<p>Freedom is not a bad thing. It&#8217;s a great thing depending on how it is used. When one is emancipated from slavery or addiction, freedom is a song that billows through the rafters of heaven. But when one is emancipated from God, it&#8217;s not freedom at all. <strong>Sometimes being <em>free</em>, makes you anything but.</strong> Do you recognize areas of your life where you wish you had less freedom? Of course, you do. </p>
<p>Before, capitulating to the complaints of the Hebrews, God instructs Samuel to make sure Israel knows what having a King really means. It is a brutal and heartbreaking offer [read 1 Sam 9:10-18; cf. Dt 17:14-20]. Yet, without thought, almost impulsively, Israel accepts saying, &#8220;<em><strong>There must be a king over us so we can be like all the other nations</strong>. Our king will judge us and lead us and fight our battles </em>[1 Sam 9:19-20; CEB].&#8221; </p>
<p>Israel accepted a counterfeit. An idol. A god other than God. <strong>A god in the form of a king.</strong></p>
<p><strong>They wanted to be like the Joneses</strong>. When they fought an army, their enemy had a king who led his troops into battle. Israel had none. <strong>They chose to become like their enemies</strong>. </p>
<p>Marinate in the awkwardness of that.</p>
<li>As we navigate a life of faithfulness and integrity, how tempting is the allure of what other people have? </li>
<li>Are you motivated to do whatever it takes to &#8216;become a Jones?&#8217;</li>
<li>How much time do you spend thinking about what you don&#8217;t have?</li>
<li>This week, write down everything you have to be thankful for. Every time you are tempted to turn your wants into gods, read your list. Take a moment and be thankful.</li>
<p>As we will see next week, sometimes when we get what we want, it isn&#8217;t what we wanted&#8230;at all. </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been trying to blog all week and it&#8217;s been a strain. This past Friday, our community was rocked by a teen suicide. We didn&#8217;t know the student or his family, but have walked alongside our families and greater community for the last few days. Needless to say, blogging hasn&#8217;t made the top priorities list. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to blog all week and it&#8217;s been a strain. </p>
<p>This past Friday, our community was rocked by a teen suicide. </p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t know the student or his family, but have walked alongside our families and greater community for the last few days. </p>
<p>Needless to say, blogging hasn&#8217;t made the top priorities list. </p>
<p>Will be back in fighting form on Monday! </p>
<p>In the meantime, check out this new song from Springsteen, an ironic look at the way things are and the way they should be. Or perhaps, the we hear things are and the way we experience them. </p>
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		<title>Theology Thought 02: Predisposed to Trust</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Theology Thought number two comes from a question I was asked after the sermon on the Wedding at Cana (John 2:1-12). &#8220;What Was Mary Thinking?&#8221; Thanks for watching. What questions would you like to see me wriggle with on these Theology Thoughts. Chime in on the comments below. Here is the sermon that is referenced [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theology Thought number two comes from a question I was asked after the sermon on the Wedding at Cana (John 2:1-12).<br />
&#8220;What Was Mary Thinking?&#8221;</p>
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<p>Thanks for watching. </p>
<p>What questions would you like to see me wriggle with on these Theology Thoughts. <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3Byb3BoZXRzYW5kcG9wc3RhcnMuY29tL3RoZW9sb2d5LXRob3VnaHRzLXByZWRpc3Bvc2VkLXRvLXRydXN0LyNjb21tZW50cw==">Chime in on the comments below.</a></p>
<p>Here is the sermon that is referenced in the video. It&#8217;s quite good&#8230;so I&#8217;ve heard. </p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Theology Thought number two comes from a question I was asked after the sermon on the Wedding at Cana (John 2:1-12).
&#8220;What Was Mary Thinking?&#8221;

Thanks for watching. 
What questions would you like to see me wriggle with on these Theology [...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Theology Thought number two comes from a question I was asked after the sermon on the Wedding at Cana (John 2:1-12).
&#8220;What Was Mary Thinking?&#8221;

Thanks for watching. 
What questions would you like to see me wriggle with on these Theology Thoughts. Chime in on the comments below.
Here is the sermon that is referenced in the video. It&#8217;s quite good&#8230;so I&#8217;ve heard. 
 
Related Posts:theology thought 01: so far away from meDriscoll and his new nemesis: literaturetoxic leadership and what may be nextThe History of NowRob Bell // Robbed HellPowered by Contextual Related Posts </itunes:summary>
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		<title>Game of Thrones: Sons of shame</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Continuing on in a men&#8217;s ministry series, today we take a look at the consequences of staying out of the business of your kids. Rolling it back a few chapters, Eli&#8217;s house (1 Samuel 2) stacks up like a house full of Lannister brothers. If not Lannisters, then not one but two Viserys Targaryens. Now [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3Byb3BoZXRzYW5kcG9wc3RhcnMuY29tL3dwLWNvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8yMDEyLzAyL2dhbWVvZnRocm9uZXNiYXIucG5n"><img src="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/gameofthronesbar.png" alt="" title="gameofthronesbar" width="650" height="50" class="alignright size-full wp-image-1995" /></a><br />
Continuing on in a men&#8217;s ministry series, today we take a look at the consequences of staying out of the business of your kids. Rolling it back a few chapters, Eli&#8217;s house (1 Samuel 2) stacks up like a house full of Lannister brothers. If not Lannisters, then not one but two Viserys Targaryens.</p>
<blockquote><p>Now Eli was very old. He heard all that his sons were doing to all Israel, and how they lay with the women who served at the entrance to the tent of meeting. He said to them, &#8220;Why do you do such things? For I hear of your evil dealings from all these people. No, my sons; it is not a good report that I hear the people of the LORD spreading abroad. If one person sins against another, someone can intercede for the sinner with the LORD; but if someone sins against the LORD, who can make intercession?&#8221; But they would not listen to the voice of their father; for it was the will of the LORD to kill them [1 Sam 2:22-25].</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Not a good report&#8221;? Um&#8230;what would a bad report be, then? It was too late to speak up anyway. Eli&#8217;s voice was a John Cage symphony on a muted iPod.</p>
<p>Eli is another father who forgot one small thing: to raise his sons. He was the epicenter of ethical and moral development for Israel, which I imagine he did effectively, but had a weak spot when it came to his sons. He couldn&#8217;t parent them, couldn&#8217;t discipline them. In short, aside from some slightly unpleasant words, Eli looked the other way, while his sons did things that dishonored the temple and its God.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Now the sons of Eli were scoundrels; they had no regard for the LORD or for the duties of the priests to the people. When anyone offered sacrifice, the priest&#8217;s servant would come, while the meat was boiling, with a three-pronged fork in his hand, and he would thrust it into the pan, or kettle, or caldron, or pot; all that the fork brought up the priest would take for himself. This is what they did at Shiloh to all the Israelites who came there. Moreover, before the fat was burned, the priest&#8217;s servant would come and say to the one who was sacrificing, &#8220;Give meat for the priest to roast; for he will not accept boiled meat from you, but only raw.&#8221; And if the man said to him, &#8220;Let them burn the fat first, and then take whatever you wish,&#8221; he would say, &#8220;No, you must give it now; if not, I will take it by force [1 Sam 2:12-16].&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3Byb3BoZXRzYW5kcG9wc3RhcnMuY29tL3dwLWNvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8yMDEyLzAyL0pvZV9QYXRlcm5vX3J1bm5pbmdfb25fZmllbGQuYm1w"><img src="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Joe_Paterno_running_on_field.bmp" alt="" title="Joe_Paterno_running_on_field" class="alignright width="15%" height="15%" wp-image-2061" /></a>Recently, Joe Paterno found himself in Eli&#8217;s shoes. A legacy coach. A powerful leader in the national world of academic sports. He was focused, famous, and successful. However, when it came time to exercise his power and authority with those closest to him&#8230;he didn&#8217;t. Perhaps he couldn&#8217;t. Perhaps he didn&#8217;t think it had anything to do with him. It wasn&#8217;t his business. It was.</p>
<p>Closer to home, <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5sYXRpbWVzLmNvbS9uZXdzL2xvY2FsL2xhLW1lLW1pcmFtb250ZS0yMDEyMDIxMiwwLDIyMjk1MS5zdG9yeQ==" target=\"_blank\">the Miramonte school scandal</a> has caused irreparable damage to children, families, a community, a city. </p>
<p>When Samuel receives his call to be the judge of Israel [1 Sam 3:2], Eli is snoozing at work. He&#8217;s asleep on the job. We can read this as &#8220;not with his family.&#8221; Some of us work long hours, that&#8217;s just how things are. Eli didn&#8217;t do anything wrong by working. His failure was forgetting to raise his sons at the same time. He remembered how to do his job, lead the worship life of Israel at Shiloh, but forgot the primary instruction: &#8220;<em>Train children in the way they should go; when they grow old, they won’t depart from it </em>[Pro 22:6 CEB].&#8221; Perhaps he didn&#8217;t think that their business was his business. He was wrong. </p>
<p>Eli reminds us to take a look at how we are shaping our children.</p>
<li>If we want strong kids, are we showing them strength?</li>
<li>If we want to grow compassion, are we modeling compassion?</li>
<li>If we want children who are faithful and faith filled, are we leading the way? </li>
<li>If we are to train children in the way they should go, should we learn those ways first? </li>
<li>How are you going to take responsibility to do that? </li>
<p>The Lord cares how you respond to these questions. <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3Byb3BoZXRzYW5kcG9wc3RhcnMuY29tL2dhbWUtb2YtdGhyb25lcy1zb25zLW9mLXNoYW1lLyNjb21tZW50cw==" target=\"_blank\">So&#8230;how do you?</a></p>
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		<title>How Evangelism Happens: Gotye Edition</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evangelism is the rough equivalent of sharing something that has changed the way you experience life. Not too long ago, if I said the name Gotye, you would think I was talking about Jean Paul Gaultier and wondering why on earth I&#8217;d be talking about him since I&#8217;m a fashion assassin. I&#8217;m a terrible dresser. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Evangelism is the rough equivalent of sharing something that has changed the way you experience life.<br />
</strong><br />
Not too long ago, if I said the name <strong>Gotye</strong>, you would think I was talking about Jean Paul Gaultier and wondering why on earth I&#8217;d be talking about him since I&#8217;m a fashion assassin. I&#8217;m a terrible dresser. But today, everything has changed. </p>
<p>This band wrote this song and recorded an album.</p>
<p><iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8UVNT4wvIGY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>I never heard the song.</p>
<p>BUT these guys did and filmed this incredibly creative and enigmatic cover. </p>
<p><iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/d9NF2edxy-M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>After I saw their interpretation of the other band&#8217;s song, I had to go and see who did it originally.</p>
<p><strong>That&#8217;s evangelism.<br />
</strong><br />
<strong>Sharing somebody else&#8217;s message, song, idea, etc&#8230;through their own personality and passion.</strong></p>
<p>In the church, it looks like this:</p>
<p>Jesus proclaims this message of grace and freedom and people don&#8217;t hear it. </p>
<p>So you fall in love with the message and allow inspiration to create a medium that grabs peoples&#8217; attention. Compelling, mind you. NOT repelling. A medium that makes sense. A medium people can own and experience. Like a YouTube video in this case.</p>
<p>When I first saw the Walk Off The Earth Cover, there were only 30 million views, now it&#8217;s 53 million a couple of weeks later. When I first saw the Gotye video there were less than 20 million views, not there have been over 70 million! </p>
<p><strong>See people LOVE the cover, but you know what? They love the original more</strong>.</p>
<p>PS: Watch these. <em>Seriously</em>!</p>
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		<title>Review: Van Halen &#8211; A Different Kind Of Truth</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend of mine texted me this: Van Halen has &#8220;aged gracefully. If they&#8217;d tried to do Hot For Teacher 2, it would have been creepy. Wolf&#8217;s playing is much better than I expected.&#8221; In a Twitter, that is an accurate review as far as I&#8217;m concerned. When I listened the first time, all I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine texted me this: Van Halen has &#8220;<em>aged gracefully. If they&#8217;d tried to do Hot For Teacher 2, it would have been creepy. Wolf&#8217;s playing is much better than I expected</em>.&#8221; </p>
<p>In a Twitter, that is an accurate review as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
<p>When I listened the first time, all I could focus on was the Mike Anthony&#8217;s missing upper stratospheric harmonies (that Chickenfoot is currently enjoying). The second time through, I was like, &#8220;Where are the solos?&#8221; and &#8220;Why is Dave yelling so much?&#8221; The third time through, I got to thinking, &#8220;The solos are there, Eddie&#8217;s just playing as part of the band and Dave is yelling because HE CAN!&#8221; That dude&#8217;s got longevity and pipes in spades. </p>
<p><img alt="" src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/391986_10150524519399243_89068304242_8690834_618289915_n.jpg" title="ADKoT" class="alignleft" width="125" height="125" /><strong>A Different Kind of Truth</strong>, if we&#8217;re honest, is right where Van Roth ought to be. There&#8217;s enough of the old blended with plenty of new. Roth&#8217;s lyrics and vocals are kind of part 70&#8242;s, part Bone, Thugs &#038; Harmony. There&#8217;s some sage rock wizardry in the way he&#8217;s crafted those lyrics and melodies. The big reverb rock anthem sound that died with Hagar&#8217;s era stays put. The songs on <em>ADKoT</em> are legit, straight forward Van Halen. I&#8217;ve heard that a lot of these songs are old demo retreads, and you can kind of place them on previous records, but I don&#8217;t care! I&#8217;m a fan and at this point I&#8217;ve listened to it enough times to just be glad it is finally with us on the planet. </p>
<p>If you listen to a track like <strong>You And Your Blues</strong>, I think you hit on the real problem of the album, it&#8217;s got the &#8216;Unchained&#8217; vibe in the guitar riff, but without the melody. <em>ADKoT</em> lacks the melodic Eddie riffs that our ears crave. That&#8217;s probably the biggest difference between this and the other albums, but we gots to allow the band to change! The beginning of <strong>China Town </strong>starts with a pretty cool riff, but then disappears. </p>
<p><strong>The Trouble With Never</strong> shows off Wolfgang&#8217;s riff-diculousness. Eddie&#8217;s boy shows up and gives a solid performance on every song. I still miss Anthony, though! It&#8217;s when he&#8217;s not there that you realize everything he did when was. </p>
<p><strong>Stay Frosty</strong> is like an eponymous ode to every Van Halen song ever. It rocks. It sways. It swaggers. It stays frosty. It sounds more like a record ending song, but then what would you do with <strong>Beat&#8217;s Workin</strong>&#8216;? The nod to <strong>Ice Cream Man</strong> just HAD to make the track listing. </p>
<p><a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3Byb3BoZXRzYW5kcG9wc3RhcnMuY29tL3dwLWNvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8yMDEyLzAyL1ZIVFRhdHRvby5qcGc="><img src="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/VHTTattoo-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="VHTTattoo" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-2057" /></a>In my opinion, there are a dozen singles on this album, none of which are <strong>Tattoo</strong>. Of all the action happening on <em>ADKoT</em>, <strong>Tattoo</strong> is impaired by comparison. It has a place, but many songs lower on the totem.Don&#8217;t judge A<strong> Different Kind of Truth</strong> by <strong>Tattoo</strong>. Just don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>This is a fun album for life-long Van Halen fans, and even new ones. </p>
<p>You can hear the whole thing on Spotify&#8230;or just pick it up any ol&#8217; way you like!</p>
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		<title>Review: Real Marriage by Mark and Grace Driscoll</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Real Marrige: The Truth about Sex, Friendship and Life-Together by Mark and Grace Driscoll I realize that I&#8217;m posting this review after the expiration date, long after the party is over, but here it is. This wasn&#8217;t the book I expected, but it also wasn&#8217;t the book I expected. This is the story of Mark [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nb29nbGUuY29tL3VybD9zYT10JiMwMzg7cmN0PWomIzAzODtxPXJlYWwlMjBtYXJyaWFnZSUyMGJ5JTIwbWFyayUyMGRyaXNjb2xsJiMwMzg7c291cmNlPXdlYiYjMDM4O2NkPTEmIzAzODt2ZWQ9MENEMFFGakFBJiMwMzg7dXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cuYW1hem9uLmNvbSUyRlJlYWwtTWFycmlhZ2UtVHJ1dGgtRnJpZW5kc2hpcC1Ub2dldGhlciUyRmRwJTJGMTQwMDIwMzgzWCYjMDM4O2VpPXVEczBUXzZUS2V2Y2lRS2MtNEdYQ2cmIzAzODt1c2c9QUZRakNORmF0aGxpRmw3ck90bDR1RzRqSHRQNXRSOFhMdyYjMDM4O3NpZzI9bkhmZjBvaGNwWXZCV0ZuOUZUZzhTZw==">Real Marrige: The Truth about Sex, Friendship and Life-Together</a><br />
by Mark and Grace Driscoll</p>
<p><a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3Byb3BoZXRzYW5kcG9wc3RhcnMuY29tL3dwLWNvbnRlbnQvdXBsb2Fkcy8yMDEyLzAyLzEyMTU2NjkyNy5qcGc="><img src="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/121566927-e1328823626253.jpg" alt="" title="121566927" width="115" height="173" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2048" /></a>I realize that I&#8217;m posting this review after the expiration date, long after the party is over, but here it is. This wasn&#8217;t the book I expected, but it also wasn&#8217;t the book I expected. This is the story of Mark and Grace Driscoll&#8217;s relationship and marriage. They have lived through themes that many people encounter in life together. While I don&#8217;t agree with the way they interpret everything, particularly because I can&#8217;t join the authors in the complimentarian worldview, I&#8217;m glad that church leaders are joining the fray and talking about things that matter to people. This podcast reviews, affirms and provides counterpoint to the book as I experienced it.<br />
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		<itunes:subtitle>Real Marrige: The Truth about Sex, Friendship and Life-Together
by Mark and Grace Driscoll
I realize that I&#8217;m posting this review after the expiration date, long after the party is over, but here it is. This wasn&#8217;t the book I expected, b[...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Real Marrige: The Truth about Sex, Friendship and Life-Together
by Mark and Grace Driscoll
I realize that I&#8217;m posting this review after the expiration date, long after the party is over, but here it is. This wasn&#8217;t the book I expected, but it also wasn&#8217;t the book I expected. This is the story of Mark and Grace Driscoll&#8217;s relationship and marriage. They have lived through themes that many people encounter in life together. While I don&#8217;t agree with the way they interpret everything, particularly because I can&#8217;t join the authors in the complimentarian worldview, I&#8217;m glad that church leaders are joining the fray and talking about things that matter to people. This podcast reviews, affirms and provides counterpoint to the book as I experienced it.


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Sheet Music by Dr. Kevin Leman
For Men Only: A Sraightforward Guide To The Inner Lives of Women by Shaunti and Jeff Feldhahn
For Women Only: What You Need To Know About The Inner Lives of Men by Shaunti and Jeff Feldhahn
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		<title>Stop That! The Kids Are Watching</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>prophetsandpopstars</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#8217;t believe it! A popstar flippin&#8217; millions of viewers the bird during the Superbowl Halftime Show! On Prime Time? Didn&#8217;t M.I.A. know that kids were watching Madonna??? Oh, wait&#8230;but kids are also watching this&#8230; and this&#8230; and this&#8230; and this&#8230; and M.I.A. makes you angry? Yeah, there&#8217;s a threat to our kids. but it&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe it! </p>
<p>A popstar flippin&#8217; millions of viewers the bird during the Superbowl Halftime Show! </p>
<p>On Prime Time? </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t M.I.A. know that kids were watching Madonna???</p>
<p><iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qlEUz1IlN70" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>Oh, wait&#8230;but kids are also watching this&#8230;</p>
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and M.I.A. makes you angry?</p>
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but it&#8217;s not M.I.A.<br />
or her finger. </p>
<p>[Micah 6:8]</p>
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		<title>Wired Wednesday: The Church Is Leaking</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Picking a voice from around the web world, I&#8217;m engaging a post by John Byron from his blog The Biblical World. The Church is leaking. Of course, that statement has nothing to do with plumbing, unless you call the water of the church, young people. Citing Barna and Leadership Journal, Byron states that six out [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picking a voice from around the web world, I&#8217;m engaging <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3RoZWJpYmxpY2Fsd29ybGQuYmxvZ3Nwb3QuY29tLzIwMTIvMDIvc2l4LXJlYXNvbnMtdG8tc3RvcC1nb2luZy10by1jaHVyY2guaHRtbA==" target=\"_blank\">a post by John Byron</a> from his blog <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3RoZWJpYmxpY2Fsd29ybGQuYmxvZ3Nwb3QuY29tLw==" target=\"_blank\">The Biblical World</a>.</p>
<p><strong>The Church is leaking</strong>. </p>
<p><img alt="" src="http://planetgreen.discovery.com/games-quizzes/water-iq-quiz/images/3-leaky-faucet.jpg" class="alignright" width="263" height="197" />Of course, that statement has nothing to do with plumbing, unless you call the water of the church, <em> young people</em>. Citing <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYXJuYS5vcmcvdGVlbnMtbmV4dC1nZW4tYXJ0aWNsZXMvNTI4LXNpeC1yZWFzb25zLXlvdW5nLWNocmlzdGlhbnMtbGVhdmUtY2h1cmNo" target=\"_blank\">Barna</a> and <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5jaHJpc3RpYW5pdHl0b2RheS5jb20vbGUvMjAxMi93aW50ZXIveW91bmdsZWF2ZWNodXJjaC5odG1s" target=\"_blank\">Leadership Journal</a>, Byron states that six out of ten young people will leave the church for an extended period of time, some of which will never return. </p>
<p>According to Leadership Journal, here are six reasons (quoted from Byron&#8217;s blog):</p>
<p><strong>Isolationism</strong>. One-fourth of 18- to 29-year-olds say church demonizes everything outside church, including the music, movies, culture, and technology that define their generation.</p>
<p><strong>Shallowness</strong>. One-third call church boring, about one-fourth say faith is irrelevant and Bible teaching is unclear. One-fifth say God is absent from their church experience.</p>
<p><strong>Anti-science</strong>. Up to one-third say the church is out of step on scientific developments and debate.</p>
<p><strong>Sex</strong>. The church is perceived as simplistic and judgmental. For a fifth or more, a &#8220;just say no&#8221; philosophy is insufficient in a techno-porno world. Young Christian singles are as sexually active as their non-churched friends, and many say they feel judged.</p>
<p><strong>Exclusivity</strong>. Three in 10 young people feel the church is too exclusive in this pluralistic and multi-cultural age. And the same number feel forced to choose between their faith and their friends.</p>
<p><strong>Doubters</strong>. The church is not a safe place to express doubts say over one-third of young people, and one-fourth have serious doubts they&#8217;d like to discuss.</p>
<p>In an excellent post by Chris Brooks on <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3dheWZhcmVyYmxvZy53b3JkcHJlc3MuY29tLzIwMTIvMDIvMDYvaXMteW91dGgtbWluaXN0cnktc3VidGx5LXNhYm90YWdpbmctY29sbGVnZS1taW5pc3RyeS8=" target=\"_blank\">the Wayfarer&#8217;s Blog</a>, Brooks notes an incompatibility between youth programs and later young adult communities. Citing a <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2F0b2RheS5jb20vbmV3cy9yZWxpZ2lvbi8yMDA3LTA4LTA2LWNodXJjaC1kcm9wb3V0c19OLmh0bQ==" target=\"_blank\">USA Today article</a>, Brooks notes, &#8220;70 percent of Protestants between the ages of 18 and 30 drop out of church before age 23.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>“The problem arises from the inadequacy of preparing young Christians for life beyond youth group,” writes David Kinnaman, co-author of <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbWF6b24uY29tL3VuQ2hyaXN0aWFuLUdlbmVyYXRpb24tUmVhbGx5LUNocmlzdGlhbml0eS1NYXR0ZXJzL2RwLzA4MDEwMTMwMDMvcmVmPXNyXzFfMT9pZT1VVEY4JiMwMzg7cWlkPTEzMjg2NjA5ODUmIzAzODtzcj04LTE=" target=\"_blank\">unChristian</a>. He points to research findings showing that, “The university setting does not usually cause the disconnect; it exposes the shallow-faith problem of many young disciples.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I submit that this trend has been the rule for quite a long time and as these young adult become&#8230;er, adults, they&#8230;, well, they hold a grudge. </p>
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And why wouldn&#8217;t they hold a grudge? </p>
<p>Ferris is right, &#8220;Life moves pretty fast.&#8221; </p>
<p>Why would anyone want to be a part of a system that settles into the complaints experienced above?</p>
<p>Those statistics, if empirically true, are an invitation for the church to&#8230;well, to not suck</p>
<p>Jesus pushes the mission of God forward through the church. We are a body that is designed to make <em>The Fast and The Furious</em> look like <em>Thomas the Train Engine</em>! The mission of the Church is an adventure epic in scale and heart arrestingly dangerous. How on earth have we become isolated, shallow, anti-intellectual, exclusive, sexually ambivalent doubt haters? </p>
<p>At the church I pastor, <a href="http://prophetsandpopstars.com/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-feed-statistics/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL2ZhY2Vib29rLmNvbS9nbGVucHJlcw==">Glendale Presbyterian Church</a> (in Glendale, Ca), we are journeying through the Gospel of John; moving through <em>The Year of Living Dangerously</em>. We are taking on the challenge of Jesus, finding his rhythm in the world and playing along. </p>
<p>The Church may be leaking, but the Gospel is in the business of pipe replacement.<br />
Wherever it is, the drip won&#8217;t drop for long.<br />
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What do you think?</a></p>
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